Tanned
and fit and without the famous stubble that was his trademark
for so many years, he looks younger and less care-worn than in a
long time. He's cocky and egotistical and its near impossible to
get a word in edgeways. Which is how it should be - for if
there's one thing worse than Geldof the motormouth, it's
Bob-A-Gob with his ego shattered and his confidence crushed.
The last time
we met two years ago he was in a very different frame of mind.
Then he was promoting Sex, Age and Death, an intensely personal
collection of songs which recorded his anger, hurt and
bewilderment at the tragic events set in motion when his wife
Paula Yates left him for Australian rock star Michael Hutchence.
What happened next was the rock'n'roll equivalent of a Greek
tragedy. There was a bitter battle over the custody of the
couples three children. Then Hutchence hanged himself. Three
years later Yates was also dead, after a heroin overdose.
Chronicling
these events in song was clearly both therapy and a cathartic
reliving of the agony. A subdued and introspective Geldof
described "chasms of grief, universes of pain, oceans of
emptiness". He had only kept functioning, he claimed, for
the sake of his children, when all he really wanted was "to
disappear to the furthest corner of the planet and howl into the
grey void". The album itself, his first in eight years,
made for harrowing listening.
Today,
at 52, Geldof has finally been able to move on. "That it happened
was tragic and cruel to everyone," he says. "But
there's no anger towards individuals. Anger is a useless
emotion."
He's
got both his confidence and his mouth back and he's in a
mood to take stock of the past and re-evaluate his life and
career. "Its
only recently that I've started listening again to those old
Boomtown Rats records and the other music from the punk
era," he says, "and it sounds surprisingly good - much
better than I remember it. It still sounds exciting. It was new
and radical and dynamic, and the Rats were part of it. I'm proud
of that."
At
the end of last year Geldof supervised the release of a new,
19-track Best of the Boomtown Rats compilation. Soon the
bands entire back catalogue will be reissued in new, digitally
remastered editions. Geldof's even back on the road playing
the old songs again, including an appearance this week at
Glasgow's Celtic Connections festival. These days, of course,
he's more famous for being famous than for being a musician.
It's something he readily accepts. "Once I entered the
social arena it became inevitable that would overshadow the
music. You become a phenomenon and I will always be the Live
Aid guy."
Geldof
insists he's not at all frustrated by the publics perception
of him. "The reality is that more people go fishing than buy
records," he says dismissively. "We think everyone is
into this pop star thing. But it's very narrow really. So to be
honest, I couldn't care less about being remembered." When
I fail to conceal my disbelief at this statement, he laughs
loudly. "All right, I give in. I do feel I've contributed
to the gaiety of nations and I cant deny I get a vibe out of
all the acclaim."
But
what of Live Aid? This year marks the 20th anniversary of
Geldof setting his career with the Boomtown Rats to one side
to bring us those harrowing pictures of starving children
in Ethiopia. Does he feel he achieved anything? "Listen," he says
forcefully. "The world is never going to be a better place
- and it's not the job of musicians to do that. It's not our
place to talk about those things. If you create great art out
of political or social events, then good luck. Art can articulate
the kind of society we've created, but changing it is a
different thing."
A
lot of musicians, such as Blur's Damon Albarn and Chris Martin
of Coldplay, were outspoken in their opposition to the war
in Iraq. One might have expected Geldof to have been prominent
among them. "Well we now live in a world of managerial
politics," he says, "and that has produced a breakdown
of trust. It's very hard to see how you deal with that."
Those
words were uttered in late October. So it is with some surprise
that I next encounter Geldof only four or five weeks later
at a benefit concert in Cape Town organised by Nelson Mandela
and his anti-Aids foundation. And wouldn't you know it, there's
Bob on stage in a crumpled white suit, making a speech twice
as long as Mandela's and ranting and raving against the iniquity
of Western capitalisms refusal to supply anti-retroviral
drugs free of charge to Aids sufferers in the Third World. "What could be
more political than that?" he demands. Back stage I remind
him of his comments only a month earlier and ask what has made
him take it upon himself to try to change the world again.
"Because Nelson Mandela asked us. He is one of the few
giants on the planet today and you can't deny him
anything," he snaps back.
Yet
Geldof insists that, in his own mind at least, he remains
first and foremost a musician. "That's who I am and its what I do. I
write songs - and a few of them have entered the culture." Listening
to the reissued Boomtown Rats records once again, its surprising
how well many of them have stood the test of time. In contrast
to much from the punk era which may have seemed energetic and
rebellious at the time but today sounds merely crude and badly
played, Geldof always wrote proper songs that would surely have
made their impact in any era - Mary of the Fourth Form, Rat Trap,
Looking After Number One and I Don't Like Mondays.
With
the benefit of hindsight, such records don't sound very punk
at all. "That's because we weren't punks. We had saxophones and
ballads and harmonies," says Geldof. "Punk was a cool
metropolitan thing in London. We came straight off the boat from
Ireland and were excluded from the metropolitan cabal, so we
played in Derby and all those other places."
The
Rats Irish origins were crucial to their success, he believes. "Punk
happened in England because rock was overblown. But it was a
response to something quite different in Ireland. Even in Dublin
there was no rock culture as such. It was like Britain in the
1950s. As there were no jobs, everybody with any talent
emigrated." Geldof's escape route was music. At the
Boomtown Rats first gig, a girl approached him after their set
and said, "You're beautiful, I want to f*** you."
"I took her home and I knew I'd found the job for me. It
was as advertised," he recalls fondly.
These
days he has a 14-year-old daughter who's almost as old as
the Mary of the Fourth Form he once sang about. I wonder
what his children make of his old records. "They take the piss out of
me," he admits. "They're more into the White Stripes
and the Hives."
Nevertheless,
he's justifiably proud of the Rats legacy. "Bishops wrote
letters. The Irish Times wrote an editorial. We were
banned," he says with pride.
"People
think I was arrogant, but that wasn't it at all. I was just
enjoying winding everybody up.'
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